Curse

generik · Jun 08, 2006, 11:11 AM // 11:11

I'm sure many of you know just how lacking Factions truly is in the PvE department, and the great lengths Anet has actually taken to make this tiny bit of content sauce last as long as possible with the many compulsary quests and other irritating stuff.

That really got me thinking.

Since Gaile seems to have flunked her college math courses big time with her 6 x 200% vs 4 x 100% logic, then again we can't blame her, she seems to have a penchant for communication skills as well as that certain quality possessed by all sales persons and lawyers alike, so I figured she is doing a real good job.

Since the loyal customers actually receive LESS (2 less account slots IS less), why not give them more in another way instead?

For one thing it is in the best interests of Anet's business model to sell as little content as they can get away with for as much money as *er humph* their loyal followers would bear, so why not seek to encourage such customers?

As it is Anet's marketing mouthpiece has stated that Guild Wars is a free game which requires no subscription fees to play, and it also goes to follow that if player Joe liked Prophecies, hates Factions, but liked Nightfall, he can simply buy 2 chapters and exactly what he wants! SURE.....

How about having a special locked area that comes with each and every chapter that is only released to players who have applied the keys of every released chapter to their accounts? To even further weed out the bottom feeders, incorporate a cutoff date for each chapter such that for each release's key it must be applied to your account (say) within 2 months of release. Afterall it is not in Anet's best interests to give goodies to cheapos who only pick up their AMAZING title when it is in the bargain bin!

The benefits of this?

1) Anet gains, obviously.
2) Core players will still get to enjoy the quantity and quality of content they have come to love and enjoy with the Prophecies(tm) campaign.
3) Think.. every SF-like/tombs area incluuded in for with each chapter!
4) Persuades people not to sit out on chapters, which is a definite win for Anet.
5) Doesn't even cost them anything, they can always incorporate the cost of producing this extra content into the pricing of each sale, and simply deny access to them from the bottom feeders.
6) Players who merge will, as usual, pay 50 dollars for another 2 discs packed full of fedex quests and to add salt to injury, receive 2 less account slots when the merge their accounts, but on the plus side, they will have exclusive access to content that is only available to them, solely because they have loyally been getting the short end of the stick! One extra incentive for merged accounts!

It doesn't even have to be very hard to implement, access to this zone can simply be restricted by a guard outside a zone who'd say "Oh <name>, I heard you have travelled far and wide and your name is heard all over Tyria and Cantha, we have some troubles here.. blah blah blah, Would you help us?" for the priviledges customers, and in contrast simply say "This area is sealed off due to <troubles> by <ruler's name> decree. What do you want to do?" (Player has no other choice other than to say "Nothing"). Nevermind the irony that a party of 8 is turned away by a single puny lvl 20 human

Of course, should anyone from Anet reads this, part of you will tinge to the sarcasm loaded in this post, but another part of you (let's just say the marketer in every business person) will find it so amazingly alluring and seksy and twisted

Discuss.

Terra Xin · Jun 08, 2006, 12:08 PM // 12:08

Anet doesn't gain from this idea, we do... They just have to go through the added trouble of pleasing us even more.... oh yay...

How long did it take for them to add in Sorros Furnace? There is a good chance they would do the same thing for factions, I don't see why they wouldn't...

I don't have a difinitive /signed opinion on the matter. I suppose it would be a good idea, but you're just asking for a new wave of whiners that will miss ou,t or who will want to gain access to the area... I doubt many people... mostely all of the members who are on here.. would want to see that..

Based on that idea, I wouldn't sign it.

generik · Jun 08, 2006, 12:32 PM // 12:32

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Originally Posted by Terra Xin

you're just asking for a new wave of whiners that will miss ou,t or who will want to gain access to the area..

The distinction here is that these people would miss out on these areas, not so much because they are not "elite" enough to farm faction extensively or otherwise, but solely because they cheaped out on the franchise.

They can whine all they want, if I were to be in Anet's position I wouldn't bothered about these bottom feeding scum, I got their money from these, I'd be happy.

What'd really matter however is Anet would actually make the loyal customers (read: the customers who are merging accounts to get LESS) happy. These are the ones I'd like to keep.

Paying 100% the money for only 50% more storage needs and 0% more network utilisation, of course it is win-win for Anet!

Imp · Jun 08, 2006, 01:21 PM // 13:21

they should add quest that cross over lands, but no "special only area that you must of linked your accounts 2 months after release" You are just looking for something that you have over other people.

/unsigned on your idea.

/signed on having something more go on between games, but always avaliable to people who own both on the same account.

lyra_song · Jun 08, 2006, 02:46 PM // 14:46

So you are proposing exclusive content to merged accounts?

Interesting. Im tempted to sign, but it feels unfair.

/Notsure

Janus_Zeal · Jun 08, 2006, 03:14 PM // 15:14

I hate the idea that people get perks just for blowing more money on the game. To me, it's the equivalent of buying game gold off eBay, another thing I frown upon. Thankfully, there hasn't been much in the way of perks for people who like to waste money. I just got some lame weapons for preordering Factions and all the CE people get is a special dance which really isn't all that special.

/unsigned

felinette · Jun 08, 2006, 07:29 PM // 19:29

God, no. People shouldn't be penalized because they don't want to buy a particular chapter or because they don't have the money to buy every chapter.

/unsigned

Dougal Kronik · Jun 08, 2006, 07:35 PM // 19:35

/signed from the selfish side of my persona.

/unsigned that wherever you place the access to these "extra" content areas is going to have people crying because they never bought one of the campaigns. You might be able to place it only via ship travel and the people who never bought all the campaigns wouldn't even know about it! (LOL)

lyra_song · Jun 08, 2006, 07:51 PM // 19:51

What about...

a unique area like Deep or TOPK thats accessible to all.

BUT!!!

Merged accounts get easier access to it (no ferrying

), while non-merged players will have to take a much harder/longer path to get to the outpost.

Stockholm · Jun 08, 2006, 07:52 PM // 19:52

It would have to a Place in Tyria, where factions only ppl can't go and for Nightfall a place in Cantha where Nightfall only's can't go and so forth. And to reach it you have to travel by ship from the new continent.

/signed

Evilsod · Jun 08, 2006, 08:52 PM // 20:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by lyra_song

What about...

a unique area like Deep or TOPK thats accessible to all.

BUT!!!

Merged accounts get easier access to it (no ferrying

), while non-merged players will have to take a much harder/longer path to get to the outpost.

So merged accounts, meaning they've been playing the game for a long time so know all the good farming spots, the tricks of the trades and the likes get free entrance. The ones who are new to the game have to start from scratch AND pay for more and more things the rest of us don't even have to think of.

Just no.

Vilaptca · Jun 08, 2006, 09:55 PM // 21:55

This isn't a discussion about if we should have gotten 8 or 6 slots. Thats been discussed hundreds of times in threads with pages going into the 50s. If I find it continuing here, this will get closed.

Vilaptca

EternalTempest · Jun 08, 2006, 10:02 PM // 22:02

/not singed

Anet sells the game to the "causal" gamer making 'exclusive' boons to the die hard fans may cause some of the the more causal gammers to be more put off.

That and people who pick up the game latter finding out they hard core games that got in at the "ground" level will be a bit ticked, espically if more slots was one of them.

Quote:

It would have to a Place in Tyria, where factions only ppl can't go and for Nightfall a place in Cantha where Nightfall only's can't go and so forth. And to reach it you have to travel by ship from the new continent.

/signed

I would be open to this if I follow how it works.
If you buy factions, get a "bonus" area in Tyria that you can access. If you get Nightfall, get a bonus area in "factions". Aka don't include the bonus area in the "new" lands.

Stockholm · Jun 08, 2006, 10:10 PM // 22:10

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Originally Posted by EternalTempest

If you buy factions, get a "bonus" area in Tyria that you can access. If you get Nightfall, get a bonus area in "factions". Aka don't include the bonus area in the "new" lands.

correct, and if you don't have the new land you will not even know about this area,and if you don't have prophecis you can't travel there anyway.

Vilaptca · Jun 09, 2006, 02:12 AM // 02:12

Do I need to edit the first post to make the 6vs8 arguments stop?

I'm completely serious. No more on that. There are other threads for that.

Vilaptca

-Loki- · Jun 09, 2006, 02:23 AM // 02:23

Closed doors obviously work. Add something to previous worldmaps that you can only get past if everyone in the group, not counting henchmen, have every expansions. Unlock Orr FFS.

BahamutKaiser · Jun 09, 2006, 02:32 AM // 02:32

There will be exclusive content in each chapter, being able to use chapter exclusive skills and chapter exclusive classes may not show very well with only 2 chapters, and exclusive classes only in factions, but as further chapters unveil, players will realize that the only way to play as your assassin in any other chapter including new content will be to combine chapters, as well as ritualist.

Lack of appreciation for exclusive content is purely subjective. There are pros as well as cons to combination beyond being able to play all of the content with one character, also bring over all of your unlocked skills, exclusive skills to either chapter, your unlocked runes and upgrades, exclusive equipment, and more from either chapter, all things which you will have to re-earn if you restart from scratch, and some of which you cannot obtain without combine chapters.

P.S. Yes the original post should be edited, and if you, Vilaptca, are a moderator, I hope you will remove generiks slanderous comments about Gaile. Slander towards Anet, and its representatives should not be tolerated on an authorized GW site. As well, the OP clearly believes and states repeatedly that 2 less character slots is justification for this new content, if we cannot discuss or disagree with the OPs original statement then this thread may as well be closed, this thread goes hand in hand with all those threads that dispute the volidity of character slot availability, and expecting ppl to overlook the justification of this topic is disfunctional to absolution.

Argen · Jun 09, 2006, 02:33 AM // 02:33

/unsigned
ANet would not be very likely to implement something like this. And also remember that they did implement several quests out of LA that gave faction points to Prophecies characters. Additionally, if something like this came from NCSoft for their best customers... it would be for people who have CoH, CoV, or Lineage on their email accounts. And purchasing an extra $150.00 in games would be a bit disheartening for an extra 3 hours of play on Guild Wars.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vilaptca

Do I need to edit the first post to make the 6vs8 arguments stop?

I'm completely serious. No more on that. There are other threads for that.

Vilaptca

Alright, can't figure this one out at all. Either edit out the offending posts, parts of the offending posts, so on and so forth. This thread seems dedicated to the OP's line of thinking. He made mention of it, and I have seen a few hints back at it, but it hasn't turned into one of those ranting threads that I've seen.

robrobrob · Jun 09, 2006, 05:11 AM // 05:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by generik

but solely because they cheaped out on the franchise.

And they should cheap out. Just because you'll blindly purchase new chapters doesn't mean you should be rewarded for it.

/not signed
/not signed